Louisville Metro Government  
Action Summary - Tentative  
Government Oversight and Audit  
Committee  
Chair Brent Ackerson (D-26)  
Vice Chair Anthony Piagentini (R-19)  
Committee Member Donna L. Purvis (D-5)  
Committee Member Paula McCraney (D-7)  
Committee Member Rick Blackwell (D-12)  
Committee Member Mark H. Fox (D-13)  
Committee Member Cindi Fowler (D-14)  
Committee Member Scott Reed (R-16)  
Committee Member Markus Winkler (D-17)  
Committee Member Stuart Benson (R-20)  
Committee Member Amy Holton Stewart (D-25)  
Tuesday, June 14, 2022  
5:00 PM  
Council Chambers/Virtual  
THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD VIA VIDEO TELECONFERENCE  
Call to Order  
Roll Call  
Chair Ackerson called the meeting to order at 5:05 p.m.  
Chair Ackerson introduced the committee members present. A quorum was  
established.  
Note: All committee members and non-committee members present attended  
virtually, except for Chair Ackerson, Vice Chair Piagentini, Council President  
James, Committee Member Fox, Committee Member Winkler, Council Member  
Hollander and Council Member George, who attended in Chambers.  
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Present:  
Committee Member Donna L. Purvis (D-5), Committee Member Paula McCraney  
(D-7), Committee Member Mark H. Fox (D-13), Committee Member Cindi Fowler  
(D-14), Committee Member Scott Reed (R-16), Committee Member Markus  
Winkler (D-17), Vice Chair Anthony Piagentini (R-19), Committee Member Stuart  
Benson (R-20), and Chair Brent Ackerson (D-26)  
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Excused:  
Committee Member Rick Blackwell (D-12), and Committee Member Amy Holton  
Stewart (D-25)  
Non-Committee Member(s)  
Council Member Angela Bowens (D-1), Council President David James (D-6),  
Council Member Bill Hollander (D-9), and Council Member Nicole George  
(D-21)  
Support Staff  
Hollie Hopkins, Jefferson County Attorney's Office  
Alice Lyon, Jefferson County Attorney's Office  
Clerk(s)  
Olivia Bennett, Assistant Clerk  
Sonya Harward, Clerk  
Pending Legislation  
1.  
WITHDRAWN: REAPPOINTMENT OF MARK RATTERMAN TO THE JEFFERSONTOWN  
FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT BOARD (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2025).  
Attachments:  
This reappointment request has been withdrawn by the Mayor’s Office.  
2.  
APPOINTMENT OF COL. DETRICK BRISCOE TO THE DEPUTY SHERIFF MERIT BOARD  
(TERM EXPIRES JUNE 13, 2023).  
Attachments:  
A motion was made by Committee Member Purvis, seconded by Committee  
Member Winkler, that this Appointment be recommended for approval.  
The following spoke to this item:  
- Chair Ackerson  
- Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office  
- Col. Detrick Briscoe, Appointee  
The following was discussed:  
- The appointee will be filling a vacant seat on this board  
- The appointee is a Mayoral appointee  
- The appointee resides in District 22  
- The appointee is the director of the Youth Challenge Program for Kentucky  
State Government  
- The appointee is a retiree after 34 years of active duty service as law  
enforcement personnel  
The motion carried by a voice vote and the Appointment was sent to the  
Consent Calendar.  
3.  
APPOINTMENT OF DAVID BECK TO THE COMMISSION ON PUBLIC ART (COPA)  
BOARD (TERM EXPIRES OCTOBER 15, 2025).  
Attachments:  
A motion was made by Committee Member Winkler, seconded by Committee  
Member Purvis, that this Appointment be recommended for approval.  
The following spoke to this item:  
- Chair Ackerson  
- Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office  
- David Beck, Appointee  
- Council Member George  
The following was discussed:  
- The appointee is the President and CEO of Kentucky Venues  
- The appointee is a life-long resident of Louisville/Jefferson County  
- The appointee resides in District 11  
- Council Member George brought this appointment opportunity to the  
appointee as a chance for the appointee to serve the community at this  
capacity  
The motion carried by a voice vote and the Appointment was sent to the  
Consent Calendar.  
4.  
APPOINTMENT OF ALISIA RICHARDSON TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD  
(TERM EXPIRES FEBRUARY 9, 2025).  
Attachments:  
A motion was made by Committee Member Stuart, seconded by Committee  
Member Fox, that this Appointment be recommended for approval.  
Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office, spoke to this item.  
The following was discussed:  
- The appointee has resided in Louisvile/Jefferson County for 17 years  
- The appointee is the owner of ARGC Construction Group  
- The appointee resides in District 9  
The motion carried by a voice vote and the Appointment was sent to the  
Consent Calendar.  
5.  
APPOINTMENT OF CHRIS WANTLAND TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD (TERM  
EXPIRES FEBRUARY 9, 2025).  
Attachments:  
A motion was made by Committee Member Fox, seconded by Committee  
Member Benson, that this Appointment be recommended for approval.  
The following spoke to this item:  
- Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office  
- Chris Wantland, Appointee  
The following was discussed:  
- The appointee has lived in Louisville/Jefferson County for 53 years  
- The appointee is a retiree  
- The appointee resides in District 8  
- The appointee has experience with civil service, examples were provided  
The motion carried by a voice vote and the Appointment was sent to the  
Consent Calendar.  
6.  
APPOINTMENT OF MARTY RUBY TO THE POLICE MERIT BOARD (TERM EXPIRES  
JUNE 1, 2026).  
Attachments:  
A motion was made by Committee Member Winkler, seconded by Committee  
Member Purvis, that this Appointment be recommended for approval.  
The following spoke to this item:  
- Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office  
- Martin Ruby, Appointee  
- Committee Member Winkler  
The following was discussed:  
- The appointee has lived in Louisville/Jefferson County for 40 years  
- The appointee is the Founder and Chairman of Stonewood Financial  
Solutions  
- The appointee resides in District 8  
- The appointee will be filling a vacant seat on this board due to the previous  
member not being reappointed  
- Questions were asked regarding the appointees understanding of the time  
commitments to being on this board -- the appointee is semi-retired and not  
only devoted to this board but also looking forward to being on this board and  
the commitment it takes  
The motion carried by a voice vote and the Appointment was sent to the  
Consent Calendar.  
7.  
REAPPOINTMENT OF DR. SHERRYL ANDERSON TO THE POLICE MERIT BOARD  
(TERM EXPIRES JUNE 1, 2026).  
Attachments:  
A motion was made by Committee Member Winkler, seconded by Committee  
Member Fox, that this Reappointment be recommended for approval.  
The following spoke to this item:  
- Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office  
- Dr. Sherryl Anderson, Appointee  
- Committee Member Winkler  
The following was discussed:  
- The appointee is a long-time resident of Louisville/Jefferson County  
- The appointee is a retired Jefferson County Public School ("JCPS")  
administrator  
- The appointee resides in District 10  
- The appointee is an active board member and prides herself on never  
missing a meeting or hearing  
- Questions were asked regarding the appointees understanding of the time  
commitments to being on this board -- the appointee has been called back to  
work for JCPS part-time but this has not interfered with the appointee's  
meeting attendance  
The motion carried by a voice vote and the Reappointment was sent to the  
Consent Calendar.  
8.  
REAPPOINTMENT OF LULA HOWARD TO THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT  
(TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2025).  
Attachments:  
A motion was made by Committee Member Winkler, seconded by Committee  
Member Fox, that this Reappointment be recommended for approval.  
The following spoke to this item:  
- Chair Ackerson  
- Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office  
- Lula Howard, Appointee  
The following was discussed:  
- The appointee is the chair of this board  
- This is the appointees last term for this board  
- The appointee is a life-long resident of Louisville/Jefferson County  
- The appointee is a retired land use planner  
- The appointee resides in District 26  
- The appointee has a been a public servant for 59 years  
- The appointee started her career as a planning technician at the  
Louisville/Jefferson County Planning Commission and was promoted to data  
processing supervisor for land use, planner I, a planner II and then retired as a  
planning manager in 1991  
The motion carried by a voice vote and the Appointment was sent to the  
Consent Calendar.  
9.  
REAPPOINTMENT OF MARITA WILLIS TO THE METROPOLITAN SEWER DISTRICT  
BOARD (TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30, 2025).  
Attachments:  
A motion was made by Committee Member Winkler, seconded by Committee  
Member Fox, that this Reappointment be recommended for approval.  
The following spoke to this item:  
- Chair Ackerson  
- Althea Jackson, Mayor's Office  
- Marita Willis, Appointee  
- Committee Member Benson  
The following was discussed:  
- The appointee is the chair for the Metropolitan Sewer District (MSD) Board  
- The appointee is a long-time resident of Louisville/Jefferson County  
- The appointee is the president of Community Engagement with Community  
Ventures Corporation  
- The appointee resides in District 20  
The motion carried by a voice vote and the Reappointment was sent to the  
Consent Calendar.  
10.  
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS 21.02, 21.05, 21.06 AND 21.99 OF THE  
LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES (“LMCO”) AND CREATING NEW  
SECTIONS OF LMCO CHAPTER 21 RELATING TO THE LOBBYING OF METRO  
OFFICERS. (AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION)  
Primary Bill Hollander (D-9) and Additional Cassie Chambers Armstrong (D-8)  
Sponsors:  
Attachments:  
A motion was made by Committee Member Winkler, seconded by Committee  
Member Piagentini, that this Resolution be untabled.  
The following spoke to this item:  
- Chair Ackerson  
- Council Member Hollander  
- Committee Member Purvis  
- Alice Lyon, Jefferson County Attorney's Office  
- Council Member George  
- Committee Member Winkler  
The following was discussed:  
- Surrounding cities all have Ordinances to regulate and register lobbyists  
- Lobbyists have stated that it is unusual to come to Louisville Metro and be in  
a jurisdiction with no registration and no regulation  
- This Ordinance requires the registration of lobbyists -- this is an initial  
registration and then a registration every two years  
- This Ordinance defines lobbying as direct communication with Metro officers  
and staff for the purpose of influencing official decisions or official actions  
- Questions were asked regarding routine permitting, licensing and  
compliance -- exemptions listed on page 4 of the Ordinance and were briefly  
reviewed  
- Lobbying is when an individual is being paid -- page 5 of the Ordinance was  
briefly reviewed  
- This Ordinance prohibits some transactions with Metro officers and  
candidates -- this Ordinance prohibits an elected Metro officer from becoming  
a lobbyists within two years of leaving office  
- The prohibition sections listed in the Ordinance will take effect immediately  
upon passing the legislation  
- The registration of lobbyists is written to not take effect until six months after  
passage of the Ordinance  
- The first 14 pages of the Ordinance are new sections -- after Section VIII there  
are amendments to the existing Ordinances  
- Questions were asked regarding whether the Ethics Commission should be  
invited to the Committee for discussion regarding administrative burdens this  
would have on the Ethics Commission  
- Questions were asked regarding whether the Ethics Commission would  
consider having a financial impact statement on the administrative burdens  
they may face  
- Questions were asked regarding how this Ordinance would effect the  
relationships Metro Council may have with the unions -- Section V of the  
Ordinance was briefly reviewed and it depends on the conversations had and  
whom the Council is speaking with -- examples were provided  
- Questions were asked regarding how the lobbyists would write the meeting  
with the metro officer on the form -- examples were provided  
- Fundamental concerns were expressed regarding all lobbyists and lobbying  
activities being treated the same, such as small businesses and non-profits --  
examples were provided  
- A Metro Council Member who pays a small non-profit organization to do  
consulting work would be considered an employer  
- Concerns were expressed regarding the proposed language written in the  
amendment by substitution that states "the only employer who's covered under  
this Ordinance is one who has an annual budget of $1M or more"  
- The importance of transparency was expressed  
- Questions were asked regarding who would have the reporting burden -- the  
lobbyists would have the burden of reporting lobbying activity not the  
employer of the lobbyists  
- A series of questions were asked regarding hypothetical scenarios and many  
examples were provided  
A motion was made by Committee Member Winkler, seconded by Chair  
Ackerson, that this Ordinance be amended as shown in the attached document  
titled: "O-058-22 V.2 CABS 061422 Amend LMCO RE Lobbying of Metro  
Officers.pdf".  
The motion to amend carried by a voice vote.  
A motion was made by Committee Member McCraney, seconded by  
Committee Member Fox, that this Ordinance be tabled.  
The motion to table carried by a voice vote.  
11.  
A RESOLUTION AMENDING RULE 6.03 OF THE RULES OF THE LEGISLATIVE  
COUNCIL OF THE LOUISVILLE/JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT  
RELATING TO THE SUBMISSION OF LEGISLATION. (AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION)  
Primary David James (D-6)  
Sponsors:  
Attachments:  
A motion was made by Committee Member Winkler, seconded by Committee  
Member Fox, that this Resolution be recommended for approval.  
The following spoke to this item:  
- Chair Ackerson  
- Council President James  
Council President James proposed an amendment by substitution that was  
read into the record.  
A motion was made by Committee Member Winkler, seconded by Committee  
Member Fox, that this Resolution be amended as shown in the attached  
document titled: "R-085-22 V.2 CABS 061422 Change to Rule 6.03 RE Submitting  
Legislation.pdf".  
The motion to amend carried by a voice vote.  
The following spoke to the proposed amendment:  
- Chair Ackerson  
- Council President James  
- Hollie Hopkins, Jefferson County Attorney's Office ("JCAO")  
- Committee Member McCraney  
- Committee Member Purvis  
- Committee Member Winkler  
- Vice Chair Piagentini  
- Committee Member Fox  
- Committee Member Reed  
The following was discussed:  
- House Bill 314 was adopted by the General Assembly, within this House Bill  
were changes made to KRS 67C, subsection 115 -- one of these changes  
relates to who would represent the Metro Council and who would approve  
Metro Council Resolutions and Ordinances -- more detailed examples were  
provided  
- Questions were asked regarding whether it was mandatory to consult with  
the JCAO for the drafting of legislation -- once passed by Metro Council, this is  
correct -- Metro Council Members are still able to work with JCAO, should they  
choose to do so  
- Questions were asked regarding whether this Resolution would allow Metro  
Council Members to seek the opinions of attorneys outside of JCAO -- this  
information was confirmed  
- Concerns were expressed regarding the knowledge an outside attorney  
would have regarding government legislation  
- Questions were asked regarding whom would be responsible to pay for  
outside Metro Government attorney council -- this would be up to the Metro  
Council to decide as it has not been made a Metro Council rule as of yet  
- This Resolution is necessary to be in compliance with State law -- there are  
still many logistics to sort out  
- JCAO is still being funded by taxpayer dollars  
- Examples were shared regarding times that there was a conflict between a  
Metro Council member and JCAO where JCAO did not sign off on a piece of  
legislation -- this rule change would allow for a Metro Council member to seek  
outside council to get a second opinion if JACO was not in agreement with the  
Council member or the drafted piece of legislation-- other examples were  
provided regarding attorney's representing Metro Council in past investigations  
- Questions were asked regarding whether an amendment should be added to  
this Resolution to state that first the Metro Council should go to JCAO and if  
JCAO chooses not to approve a piece of legislation the Metro Council is then  
authorized to move forward in seeking a second opinion from outside council -  
- examples were provided -- questions were asked whether Metro Council  
would be in violation of State Statute if this amendment was to be made  
- Concerns were expressed regarding whether outside attorney's would abuse  
this rule to make additional income  
- It was stated that should a Council Member seek outside council they disclose  
the relationship they have with the attorney they have chosen  
- The rule change states it is no longer required to have JCAO approval on  
legislation that comes to Metro Council  
A motion was made by Committee Member Reed, seconded by Committee  
Member Winkler, that this Ordinance be tabled.  
The motion to table carried by a voice vote.  
Adjournment  
Without objection, Chair Dorsey adjourned the meeting at 6:39 p.m.  
Note: Items sent to the Consent Calendar or Old Business will be heard before the full Council at  
the Metro Council meeting on June 23, 2022.